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Beneteau Oceanis 40 / 2 CABINES ----versus--- Bavaria 40 Vision 2008/2009

Does any body know something about this Boat ?
I am planing to buy one of these ...

The Hanse and the most of the other brands in the same price category have in the moment an rectangular design witch is not pleasant to us.

The Beneteau Oceanis is better equipped for the price ...
What you know about those Boats ?

I hope to get more informations soon (visiting an Beneteau dealer)

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Permalink Reply by Alain Brauckmann on September 1, 2008 at 2:29pm
May I ask you what do you think of the steering gear from this Boat ? How is the access to this part? How does it really work? One chain ? Some ones reported a broken chain between the two wheels ....

Some ones reported an horrible steering if you go backyard with the Boat in your Box. It seems that there is a strong force on the rudder ?


How is a FAST gear changing ( fast forward / backward ) when you are parking in a small Box in the port ?

How is the Bow-thruster ? Strong enough ? Consumption ?

Do you have an electrical winch? Is this winch strong enough for pulling someone in the mast ?

Do you have an TV installed ? Does it work with 12 volts?


How are the pumps ? Shower, Bilge etc.


I have to invest 180 000 Euros for an Oceanis FULL options here in Europe ... that is a lot of money
The Oceanis is cheaper as the Bavaria and have much more options for the same price.
Permalink Reply by Alain Brauckmann on September 10, 2008 at 7:44am
I am now back at home.
We have decided to take the 40ft because there is not enough space in our marina for such wide boats in Koper / Slo.

In a few days we will know what the price of a full equipped boat is.

We had the chance to visit a OCEANIS 40, 3 cabines.
The boat seems huge inside.
I love the position of the pumps and the technical elements.

I noticed that the doorknobs are a bit loose. Is this usual by the Beneteau?
I also noticed that there are some spaces ( left ? ) where you can lose objects ... did you noticed this to ?
Permalink Reply by Franc on September 10, 2008 at 7:49am
I think Beneteau will fix the door knobs under warranty if they get loose but I am not sure what you mean by spaces where you can lose objects...

rds said:
I am now back at home.
We have decided to take the 40ft because there is not enough space in our marina for such wide boats.

In a few days we will know what the price of a full equipped boat is.

We had the chance to visit a OCEANIS 40, 3 cabines.
The boat seems huge inside.
I love the position of the pumps and the technical elements.

I noticed that the doorknobs are a bit loose. Is this usual by the Beneteau?
I also noticed that there are some spaces ( left ? ) where you can lose objects ... did you noticed this to ?
Permalink Reply by Alain Brauckmann on September 10, 2008 at 8:04am
there are some space left in the Salon


Imagine, if you pose some coins or small things here, you find them back in the Bilge ...
(!)
Permalink Reply by Franc on September 10, 2008 at 8:16am
Ha Ha! I haven't looked at the 40 but the 43 has trimmings that would keep small objects in place. :-)
Permalink Reply by Alain Brauckmann on September 10, 2008 at 9:38am
An other strange thing is that they changed the wide of the Boat from 3m95 to 3m91 in the Beneteau official catalog.
What happened that the boat is smaller now ... ;-)
Permalink Reply by Franc on September 10, 2008 at 10:07am
Yes. Some marinas are too small for these huge boats, so they had to make them smaller... :-)

rds said:
An other strange thing is that they changed the wide of the Boat from 3m95 to 3m91 in the Beneteau official catalog.
What happened that the boat is smaller now ... ;-)
Permalink Reply by Alain Brauckmann on September 10, 2008 at 10:13am
On paper or in reality ?
Permalink Reply by Franc on September 10, 2008 at 10:14am
Just joking! :-)

rds said:
On paper or in reality ?
Permalink Reply by Alain Brauckmann on September 10, 2008 at 10:19am
No, that is reality ! As funny as it sounds ....
Permalink Reply by John Shasteen on September 10, 2008 at 11:11am
I know very little about how they sail or what creature comforts they have, but here's what I do know - the last time Paloma was at Southern Yachts (off Galveston Bay, South of Houston) for a bottom job and new zincs, 80% of the 25 or so boats out of the water for actual repairs were mostly Beneteaus (and a few other fin keel, spade rudder bay boats) with damage to either rudders or keels. Probably from groundings.
All of those boats looked fragile when out of the water. Some of the owners came over and marveled at the sturdy looking underbody of Paloma, my blue water warrior princess. Others will no doubt disagree, but I would never go to sea in a boat with a spade rudder and skinny fin keel.
Permalink Reply by Alain Brauckmann on September 10, 2008 at 11:24am
compared to a Bavaria .... ?

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