Engine hour meter whacky - SeaKnots2024-03-29T13:14:23Zhttps://seaknots.ning.com/forum/topics/engine-hour-meter-whacky?groupUrl=beneteau4043&groupId=900123%3AGroup%3A49521&id=900123%3ATopic%3A199843&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAll,
Let me open by again th…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2018-01-12:900123:Comment:2297082018-01-12T06:20:26.150ZBrendan Smythhttps://seaknots.ning.com/profile/BrendanSmyth
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<p>Let me open by again thanking Larry for his post.</p>
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<p>The issue is well known, and there appears to be at least two fixes I've seen, as follows:</p>
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<p>1. Clean meter of silicon adhesive (I'm not convinced this is solving the root cause of the issue) because I've read many instances where this fix worked temporarily, or not at all.</p>
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<p>2. Replace the LCD screen and ribbon cable (assembly). This is the fix provided by Larry. In fact, the…</p>
<p>All,</p>
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<p>Let me open by again thanking Larry for his post.</p>
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<p>The issue is well known, and there appears to be at least two fixes I've seen, as follows:</p>
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<p>1. Clean meter of silicon adhesive (I'm not convinced this is solving the root cause of the issue) because I've read many instances where this fix worked temporarily, or not at all.</p>
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<p>2. Replace the LCD screen and ribbon cable (assembly). This is the fix provided by Larry. In fact, the boatstuff.se website lists the replacement part for a Volvo Penta tachometer, however, the tachometer is really a VDO tach with a Volvo faceplate. The same tach is also used for the Yanmar (again the difference is just the Yanmar faceplate). The LCD is clearly an issue and it appears that boatstuff.se is making a small business in serving this problem. In fact, the dealer has even taken the time to create a YouTube video, which illustrates the entire replacement process. </p>
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<p>Here is the link to the video <a rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFkSwD5-mfw" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFkSwD5-mfw</a></p>
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<p>I am going to order the part and complete the replacement. I'll report back on any issues I encounter, and hopefully a positive outcome. </p>
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<p>btw... the replacement part is approximately $60 CAD + shipping.</p>
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<p>Stay tuned. More news at 11.</p> Thanks Larry... I'm going to…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2018-01-11:900123:Comment:2297052018-01-11T17:12:51.758ZBrendan Smythhttps://seaknots.ning.com/profile/BrendanSmyth
<p>Thanks Larry... I'm going to move forward with the purchase.</p>
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<p>Thanks Larry... I'm going to move forward with the purchase.</p>
<p></p> I used google translate on th…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2018-01-11:900123:Comment:2297932018-01-11T05:46:18.141ZLarry Wittyhttps://seaknots.ning.com/profile/LarryWitty
<p>I used google translate on the page, but in the end, here is the info from my invoice: "50104 LCD display Volvo Penta VDO" where the first number may be a part number. Since I bought the parts from here in the US and was unsure of compatibility, I emailed <span> </span><a href="mailto:info@boatstuff.se" rel="nofollow noopener" shape="rect" target="_blank">info@boatstuff.se</a> and Rickard responded and was very helpful. He asked for me to send photos of my tach to ensure he got me the right…</p>
<p>I used google translate on the page, but in the end, here is the info from my invoice: "50104 LCD display Volvo Penta VDO" where the first number may be a part number. Since I bought the parts from here in the US and was unsure of compatibility, I emailed <span> </span><a rel="nofollow noopener" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:info@boatstuff.se">info@boatstuff.se</a> and Rickard responded and was very helpful. He asked for me to send photos of my tach to ensure he got me the right part. While I was a bit skeptical (i.e. fraud antenna was going up...) of the entire process due to language, international shipping, paypal payment, etc, it worked out perfectly. Email is your best option as their service turned out to be great.</p> Hi Larry,
Brilliant find. D…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2018-01-11:900123:Comment:2296092018-01-11T04:15:36.498ZBrendan Smythhttps://seaknots.ning.com/profile/BrendanSmyth
<p>Hi Larry,</p>
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<p>Brilliant find. Do you recall the Part # for the LCD Screen and Ribbon at boatstuff.se? Or perhaps you can post the link to the part from their site. My Swedish is not as good as it used to be :)</p>
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<p>Hi Larry,</p>
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<p>Brilliant find. Do you recall the Part # for the LCD Screen and Ribbon at boatstuff.se? Or perhaps you can post the link to the part from their site. My Swedish is not as good as it used to be :)</p>
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<p> </p> Two years ago, our display wo…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2018-01-10:900123:Comment:2296882018-01-10T14:57:18.356ZMike Wilsonhttps://seaknots.ning.com/profile/MikeWilson
<p>Two years ago, our display would intermittently work. I cleaned the contacts per one of the forums and have not had any issues. I did email the gentleman in Europe and for around $70 (Jan 2018), I can have a new display delivered to the US. I am ordering one to go to family that is putting together a care package to ship to us in the Bahamas. At the time I cleaned the contacts, I found two new hour meters from a cruiser in Georgetown. Since I had a "fix" it has worked since then. Never…</p>
<p>Two years ago, our display would intermittently work. I cleaned the contacts per one of the forums and have not had any issues. I did email the gentleman in Europe and for around $70 (Jan 2018), I can have a new display delivered to the US. I am ordering one to go to family that is putting together a care package to ship to us in the Bahamas. At the time I cleaned the contacts, I found two new hour meters from a cruiser in Georgetown. Since I had a "fix" it has worked since then. Never installed the hour meter. Go figure.</p>
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<p>Mike</p>
<p>S/V MiJoy</p> Larry, that's two of us that…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-10-16:900123:Comment:2277912017-10-16T17:40:46.906ZMike Brownhttps://seaknots.ning.com/profile/MikeBrown
<p>Larry, that's two of us that wishes you had posted your fix sooner. I just paid over $300 for a new tach, and that was at wholesale cost. I sent a note to James Taylor telling him about your LCD screen fix. Hopefully it works for him as well.</p>
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<p>Larry, that's two of us that wishes you had posted your fix sooner. I just paid over $300 for a new tach, and that was at wholesale cost. I sent a note to James Taylor telling him about your LCD screen fix. Hopefully it works for him as well.</p>
<p>Mike</p> Should have posted my fix ear…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-10-16:900123:Comment:2276032017-10-16T13:57:07.343ZLarry Wittyhttps://seaknots.ning.com/profile/LarryWitty
<p>Should have posted my fix earlier. I had the same problem with the tach on my 323 before I bought the 43. I was able to get the hour meter to work on the 323 by following the processes out on the web about cleaning the silicon & the ribbon cable. When the 43 hour meter went out, I was able to get it back for a short time with the ribbon cable trick but it went dark again within a few weeks.</p>
<p>I then found boatstuff.se who sells a replacement LCD screen & ribbon cable for the…</p>
<p>Should have posted my fix earlier. I had the same problem with the tach on my 323 before I bought the 43. I was able to get the hour meter to work on the 323 by following the processes out on the web about cleaning the silicon & the ribbon cable. When the 43 hour meter went out, I was able to get it back for a short time with the ribbon cable trick but it went dark again within a few weeks.</p>
<p>I then found boatstuff.se who sells a replacement LCD screen & ribbon cable for the hour meter. I replaced the LCD in the hour meter about a year ago and it has been working perfectly every since the replacement. I did the same procedure on a friends boat who had the same VDO/Yanmar tach and his has been working perfectly since as well. The process is very simple and Rickard from boatstuff.se was very helpful in answering my questions and providing a great PDF how-to document.</p>
<p>The main reason I went with this approach was that I wanted to know the hours on the boat/engine. I bought the boat second hand and while I recall seeing the hours during the sea trial, the hour meter was completely out once I took delivery. I ran the boat for a couple of years without the hour meter and did not keep the best log of hours, so I basically lost track. Once I put in the LCD, the actual hours was displayed again!</p> After trying all the fixes I…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-10-15:900123:Comment:2277052017-10-15T21:27:29.864ZMike Brownhttps://seaknots.ning.com/profile/MikeBrown
<p>After trying all the fixes I finally bit the bullet and replaced the entire tach unit. Other than needing to adjust the tachometer for correct engine speed it was an easy repair. </p>
<p>Mike</p>
<p>After trying all the fixes I finally bit the bullet and replaced the entire tach unit. Other than needing to adjust the tachometer for correct engine speed it was an easy repair. </p>
<p>Mike</p> Hello Jo,
I read the referre…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-10-07:900123:Comment:2275102017-10-07T21:36:59.539ZLuis Vieira de Sahttps://seaknots.ning.com/profile/LuisVieiradeSa
<p>Hello Jo,</p>
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<p>I read the referred to fixes in the other forums and it was strange what people said. For me it looks like a bad contact in the connector as you say. I wrote my experience above (2015) and I must say that came to the previous state that is I can only read the hours in the night and with a light pointing to the display.</p>
<p>When I changed the battery in 2015, I removed the whole assembly but I was not worried with the hour meter. I was worried with the fact that…</p>
<p>Hello Jo,</p>
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<p>I read the referred to fixes in the other forums and it was strange what people said. For me it looks like a bad contact in the connector as you say. I wrote my experience above (2015) and I must say that came to the previous state that is I can only read the hours in the night and with a light pointing to the display.</p>
<p>When I changed the battery in 2015, I removed the whole assembly but I was not worried with the hour meter. I was worried with the fact that pressing the Start switch, an alarm sounded and I could not start the engine. In fact I was lucky because another boat pulled me to the quay one mile away where I could get a new battery. And because I moved the assembly house around trying to fix the non Start situation, may be I touched the ribbon cable and it get a better contact. In my next winter visit to the boat (sitting in a Greek shipyard for the next summer) I will do something like you say and will use a spray contact cleaner as well.</p>
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<p>Merci pour votre post, Luis</p> Hi to everyone, before doing…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-10-07:900123:Comment:2277012017-10-07T15:25:38.302ZJohttps://seaknots.ning.com/profile/Jo
<p>Hi to everyone, before doing anything that can ruin your tachometer, please try this first that worked for me after having tried everything read on the internet about this problem. I had the same problem with my tachometer/hour meter (yanmar) and the tachometer was working well but without any hours showing on the LCD display. I removed the silicone (as explain in another discussion group) but it did not do anything. But what I found is probably the cause of why the hour meters does not…</p>
<p>Hi to everyone, before doing anything that can ruin your tachometer, please try this first that worked for me after having tried everything read on the internet about this problem. I had the same problem with my tachometer/hour meter (yanmar) and the tachometer was working well but without any hours showing on the LCD display. I removed the silicone (as explain in another discussion group) but it did not do anything. But what I found is probably the cause of why the hour meters does not work. On the picture included, you will see a picture of a connector where the LCD display cable connects to the board. This is what was the problem. The 6 pins was not touching the ribbon cable or the strength of the pins against the cable was not strong enough to <span style="text-decoration: underline;">create a good electric contact</span>. I used a toothpick that I inserted inside the tiny hole of each pin of the connector to make them to be closer to the other side and make sure that the tension is strong enough to create a good contact. Then it was working like a brand new. So, forget the step to remove the silicone glue, this is not the problem. It worked just because people touched the ribbon cable and created a better contact. Good luck. Sorry for my typing mistakes, French is my mother tongue. Let me know if you have success with this solution.</p>