Sea anchor or engine? - SeaKnots2024-03-29T11:25:07Zhttp://seaknots.ning.com/forum/topics/sea-anchor-or-engine?commentId=900123%3AComment%3A168042&feed=yes&xn_auth=noPersonally, I prefer to heave…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2012-05-16:900123:Comment:1895582012-05-16T23:52:54.079ZMichael Teafordhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/MichaelTeaford
<p>Personally, I prefer to heave too. This works up to 80 knots wind. From personal experence, this has alway,s worked. If you don,t know how to heave too, get Lin & larry Pardey's dvd on heavy weather sailing, he makes it simple to understand.</p>
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<p>..Michael..</p>
<p>Personally, I prefer to heave too. This works up to 80 knots wind. From personal experence, this has alway,s worked. If you don,t know how to heave too, get Lin & larry Pardey's dvd on heavy weather sailing, he makes it simple to understand.</p>
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<p>..Michael..</p> i sail thru em. is best way…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2012-05-02:900123:Comment:1890772012-05-02T01:04:06.647Zzeehaghttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/zeehag
<p>i sail thru em. is best way to be rid of em.</p>
<p>i sail thru em. is best way to be rid of em.</p> I have used all the methods s…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2011-11-07:900123:Comment:1783192011-11-07T23:54:07.052ZStephen Phillipshttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/StephenPhillips
<p>I have used all the methods so far described and they all worked. As some have already mentioned, it depends on the strength and duration of the strong winds and the sea room available. So try them all and get an understanding of how you and your boat handle different wind and sea conditions with the various methods. </p>
<p>We hove to one night as the wind kept increasing, a few hours later the wind was way too strong for that method so deployed a parachute and put sails away. 3 days later…</p>
<p>I have used all the methods so far described and they all worked. As some have already mentioned, it depends on the strength and duration of the strong winds and the sea room available. So try them all and get an understanding of how you and your boat handle different wind and sea conditions with the various methods. </p>
<p>We hove to one night as the wind kept increasing, a few hours later the wind was way too strong for that method so deployed a parachute and put sails away. 3 days later recovered the parachute after weathering our first(and last!!!) Tropical Revolving Storm. After recovering the parachute we had difficulty keeping the boat below 14 knots under bare poles, so trailed many lines behind and they then kept our speed in the 8 knot range. Slower is much safer!!</p> Sea anchor or drogue. The po…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2011-10-10:900123:Comment:1755002011-10-10T20:54:10.121ZPeter Kaferhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/PeterKafer
Sea anchor or drogue. The point is, speed kills and you want to slow the boat down so the sea tends to move underneath the boat.
Sea anchor or drogue. The point is, speed kills and you want to slow the boat down so the sea tends to move underneath the boat. A sea anchor is standard equi…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2011-10-05:900123:Comment:1745602011-10-05T03:21:58.327ZAlhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/Al835
A sea anchor is standard equipment for me. I agree with Bill the potential duration of the blow is an important factor. Other factors for me are the ability to control the boat’s direction and comfort. My boat is light and the bow can get blown down which could expose the boat and crew to dangerous waves. So I go to sea anchor more then I would on a heavier boat. Sea room is also an important factor. I have added a bigger float to the dump line and sometimes add fenders to the line, the first…
A sea anchor is standard equipment for me. I agree with Bill the potential duration of the blow is an important factor. Other factors for me are the ability to control the boat’s direction and comfort. My boat is light and the bow can get blown down which could expose the boat and crew to dangerous waves. So I go to sea anchor more then I would on a heavier boat. Sea room is also an important factor. I have added a bigger float to the dump line and sometimes add fenders to the line, the first line I use is poly (floating) after that I attach a nylon rode. I set off a bow roller through a rudder hose (chaff guard), in addition I rig a snatch block from the sea anchor rode to a hard point aft that allows the bow to be trimmed to the waves. <br/>I would also suggest practice practice practice setting and retrieving.<br/> suky-- why heave to--if the b…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2011-09-05:900123:Comment:1717982011-09-05T15:53:23.786Zzeehaghttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/zeehag
<p>suky-- why heave to--if the boat and you are good together and all is well, and with the current and wind, dont even need engine. against tide/current and against weather, yes, do need engine..</p>
<p>in the sloop the engine just barely kept up when we sailed against weather---i find i dont like sailing into wind--is hard on boat and people-- bashes hard and is tiresome work. my formosa is aweeome--i dont sail to weather, but weather to beam and abaft us is awesome/ engine only…</p>
<p>suky-- why heave to--if the boat and you are good together and all is well, and with the current and wind, dont even need engine. against tide/current and against weather, yes, do need engine..</p>
<p>in the sloop the engine just barely kept up when we sailed against weather---i find i dont like sailing into wind--is hard on boat and people-- bashes hard and is tiresome work. my formosa is aweeome--i dont sail to weather, but weather to beam and abaft us is awesome/ engine only when speed is less than 2.0 kts, and reefed mizzen and reefed or not jib as weather sees fit. </p>
<p>until you are comfy sailing big weather, heaving to is a good idea-- but the lil winds last such lil time, i find just sailing thru is easiest. have to watch sky and sea for any changes to tell you when to reef....not allis predictable</p> john--in the gulf, we rolled…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2011-09-05:900123:Comment:1715192011-09-05T15:44:14.623Zzeehaghttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/zeehag
<p>john--in the gulf, we rolled in the jib until we werent on the proverbial edge anymore-- sometimes we furled it in to leave only 1/3 of it out, or even 1/4 only, once we left out only a corner and still flew!! --</p>
<p>with my formosa, in the pacific, we did first reeef points on mizzen and 3 full rolls of jib and weathered well a 60+ kts wind squall in pacific---hit us hard and lasted a few hours--was a great ride, as boat speed was 8+kts in my brick....!!!!</p>
<p>we used NO…</p>
<p>john--in the gulf, we rolled in the jib until we werent on the proverbial edge anymore-- sometimes we furled it in to leave only 1/3 of it out, or even 1/4 only, once we left out only a corner and still flew!! --</p>
<p>with my formosa, in the pacific, we did first reeef points on mizzen and 3 full rolls of jib and weathered well a 60+ kts wind squall in pacific---hit us hard and lasted a few hours--was a great ride, as boat speed was 8+kts in my brick....!!!!</p>
<p>we used NO engine in the weather--no need to do so--we werent going to weather...</p>
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<p>if you can sail the weather, why heave to...the sailing is actually awesome in many storms. extreme strorms ion gulf i like to seek shelter from. i have sailed "severe" storms in the gulf , according to noaa......</p> How about heaving to ? .... h…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2011-09-05:900123:Comment:1717962011-09-05T06:38:30.777ZSuky Cannonhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/SukyCannon33
<p>How about heaving to ? .... how'd that engine do in those seas and winds. Same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago. On reflection, I wondered if I might have been better off heaving to but we were much too close to lee shore. Engine and boat performed great... 40 MPH for 3/4 of an hr. Hope it doesn't happen for a long time....if ever again.</p>
<p>Where were you ? and did you have access to info on how long it was going to last</p>
<p>How about heaving to ? .... how'd that engine do in those seas and winds. Same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago. On reflection, I wondered if I might have been better off heaving to but we were much too close to lee shore. Engine and boat performed great... 40 MPH for 3/4 of an hr. Hope it doesn't happen for a long time....if ever again.</p>
<p>Where were you ? and did you have access to info on how long it was going to last</p> zeehag, how far in did you re…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2011-09-03:900123:Comment:1717912011-09-03T19:27:09.445ZJohnhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/JohnRocheleau
zeehag, how far in did you reef your roller furling?
zeehag, how far in did you reef your roller furling? i keep going. i sail a ketch,…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2011-09-02:900123:Comment:1716952011-09-02T01:18:40.654Zzeehaghttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/zeehag
<p>i keep going. i sail a ketch, heavy and good for it. jib, reefed, and mizzen, reefed, in 60+ kts of wind north of cabo san lucas got me 8+ kts boat speed. awesome fast~!!!!!</p>
<p>my boat is a formosa, and they are built to sail that. </p>
<p>i have done same in a sloop in gulf of mexico during my sailing there-- we got thun der storms off florida every day or so- was a lot of work. we continued thru using reefed roller furling jib and no main. we didnt need engine-- boat was…</p>
<p>i keep going. i sail a ketch, heavy and good for it. jib, reefed, and mizzen, reefed, in 60+ kts of wind north of cabo san lucas got me 8+ kts boat speed. awesome fast~!!!!!</p>
<p>my boat is a formosa, and they are built to sail that. </p>
<p>i have done same in a sloop in gulf of mexico during my sailing there-- we got thun der storms off florida every day or so- was a lot of work. we continued thru using reefed roller furling jib and no main. we didnt need engine-- boat was sailing well. </p>
<p>why turn on engine if boat is sailing and sails are reefed. the squall will go away. </p>
<p>you will never outrun a storm.</p>
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<p>you can see squalls coming in the air, sky, and in the water, if you pay close attention. there are changes visible to the eye of a sailor. these are learned over time.</p>
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