Jammed Electric Cabin Top Winch - SeaKnots2024-03-29T06:20:57Zhttp://seaknots.ning.com/forum/topics/jammed-electric-cabin-top-winch?groupUrl=beneteau4043&commentId=900123%3AComment%3A225696&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMake sure you inspect the for…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-06-28:900123:Comment:2256962017-06-28T00:34:48.859ZMike Brownhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/MikeBrown
<p>Make sure you inspect the forward edge of pawls when you remove them. This is the edge that engages the teeth on the inside of the winch drum. Their job is to prevent the drum from spinning backwards. If they're worn they'll slip creating a rather dangerous situation if you have a fully loaded sheet on it. Replace them (they're cheap) if you have any doubt.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
<p>Make sure you inspect the forward edge of pawls when you remove them. This is the edge that engages the teeth on the inside of the winch drum. Their job is to prevent the drum from spinning backwards. If they're worn they'll slip creating a rather dangerous situation if you have a fully loaded sheet on it. Replace them (they're cheap) if you have any doubt.</p>
<p>Mike</p> The same thing applies to the…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-06-28:900123:Comment:2257852017-06-28T00:27:00.231ZMike Brownhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/MikeBrown
<p>The same thing applies to the primary winches. Depending on conditions I sometimes use 4 wraps rather than 3. My buddy that sells Beneteau, Catalina and Jeanneau tells me he's seen the fingers break off. In any case I'm always alert to any issues whenever I have the genoa sheeted in hard. Sure wish Beneteau had installed larger winches but no such luck.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
<p>The same thing applies to the primary winches. Depending on conditions I sometimes use 4 wraps rather than 3. My buddy that sells Beneteau, Catalina and Jeanneau tells me he's seen the fingers break off. In any case I'm always alert to any issues whenever I have the genoa sheeted in hard. Sure wish Beneteau had installed larger winches but no such luck.</p>
<p>Mike</p> Yep my boat is 8 years old, f…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-06-27:900123:Comment:2256942017-06-27T19:40:17.734ZWaynehttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/Wayne
<p>Yep my boat is 8 years old, fresh water use only until last Aug, decommissioned for three years and the grease inside was more like a sticky paraffin wax if there is such a thing. Totally unacceptable. </p>
<p>Yep my boat is 8 years old, fresh water use only until last Aug, decommissioned for three years and the grease inside was more like a sticky paraffin wax if there is such a thing. Totally unacceptable. </p> That's it Sam! I recall the m…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-06-27:900123:Comment:2259842017-06-27T19:34:26.503ZWaynehttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/Wayne
<p>That's it Sam! I recall the main luff a tad loose while sailing, threw maybe three wraps on the drum and pulled it tight. Afterwards, it was jammed. </p>
<p>On a side I remember saying to myself "I shouldn't have done that while under load". Live and learn. DUH!</p>
<p>That's it Sam! I recall the main luff a tad loose while sailing, threw maybe three wraps on the drum and pulled it tight. Afterwards, it was jammed. </p>
<p>On a side I remember saying to myself "I shouldn't have done that while under load". Live and learn. DUH!</p> I found that five wraps of li…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-06-27:900123:Comment:2256902017-06-27T19:07:12.199Zsamhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/sam41
<p>I found that five wraps of line on the cabin top winch is required to prevent slippage and possible bending the stripper arm. I had one bend early on.</p>
<p> and replace it.</p>
<p>Sam</p>
<p>I found that five wraps of line on the cabin top winch is required to prevent slippage and possible bending the stripper arm. I had one bend early on.</p>
<p> and replace it.</p>
<p>Sam</p> After reading this I've decid…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-06-27:900123:Comment:2256872017-06-27T17:37:44.326ZJames Taylorhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/JamesTaylor
<p>After reading this I've decided to service my winches this week! Its been 8 years so they're do. Thanks for the motivation!</p>
<p>After reading this I've decided to service my winches this week! Its been 8 years so they're do. Thanks for the motivation!</p> Thanks for the tips!tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-06-27:900123:Comment:2256862017-06-27T14:57:19.665ZWaynehttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/Wayne
<p>Thanks for the tips!</p>
<p>Thanks for the tips!</p> Wayne, thanks for the update.…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-06-27:900123:Comment:2258842017-06-27T03:00:04.120ZMike Brownhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/MikeBrown
<p>Wayne, thanks for the update. You must have really put some pressure on that arm for it to flex that much. Glad to hear you got it apart and serviced. As an FYI next time use an appropriately sized piece of hardwood as the drift. Or lay the wood against the impact point. While it wont always work when it does you'll spare the impact point the sort of damage you experienced. Glad you're back in business.</p>
<p>Good luck with installing a chart plotter. Running the wiring will be challenge if…</p>
<p>Wayne, thanks for the update. You must have really put some pressure on that arm for it to flex that much. Glad to hear you got it apart and serviced. As an FYI next time use an appropriately sized piece of hardwood as the drift. Or lay the wood against the impact point. While it wont always work when it does you'll spare the impact point the sort of damage you experienced. Glad you're back in business.</p>
<p>Good luck with installing a chart plotter. Running the wiring will be challenge if you install it in the pod on the aft end of the cockpit table. </p>
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<p>You'll love the inverter. Just keep an eye on what you're powering with it or you'll run your house battery bank down in a hurry. The microwave is the biggest offender. So much so we always run the engine to keep the alternator compensating for the power consumption.</p>
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<p>Mike</p> Hey Mike, got back to the boa…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-06-27:900123:Comment:2257842017-06-27T02:28:06.013ZWaynehttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/Wayne
<p>Hey Mike, got back to the boat this past weekend and hadn't replied. Took a three pound brass hammer and drift and went to town! Apparently on the last sail I must have overloaded the winch enough to cause the tripper arm to flex which then caused the two clips to pop out and lodge under the stripper arm thereby putting extreme pressure against the cap. </p>
<p>The cap was so tight I had to hammer the cap about 270 degrees counter clockwise before it STARTED to free. Luckily the cap is…</p>
<p>Hey Mike, got back to the boat this past weekend and hadn't replied. Took a three pound brass hammer and drift and went to town! Apparently on the last sail I must have overloaded the winch enough to cause the tripper arm to flex which then caused the two clips to pop out and lodge under the stripper arm thereby putting extreme pressure against the cap. </p>
<p>The cap was so tight I had to hammer the cap about 270 degrees counter clockwise before it STARTED to free. Luckily the cap is brass and I was able to use the hammer and drift to flatten out the flesh cutting burrs I put in it.</p>
<p>I then disassembled, cleaned and serviced. All went back together well and is now better than the other three. So now I will have to service them! Also, there is no disengagement pin when using the handle.</p>
<p>Thanks for inquiring. Guess next project is to install a chart plotter in the cockpit and perhaps incorporate a large inverter.</p> Wayne, just curious as to how…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2017-06-27:900123:Comment:2256842017-06-27T00:44:24.810ZMike Brownhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/MikeBrown
<p>Wayne, just curious as to how you made out in freeing up your cabin top winch.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
<p>Wayne, just curious as to how you made out in freeing up your cabin top winch.</p>
<p>Mike</p>