New member, buying the right sailboat. - SeaKnots2024-03-28T14:19:58Zhttp://seaknots.ning.com/forum/topics/900123:Topic:35498?commentId=900123%3AComment%3A35599&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSomething you didn't mention…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2009-02-08:900123:Comment:606692009-02-08T16:32:53.283ZCommodoreSwabhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/CommodoreSwab
Something you didn't mention were the Bahamas, if you consider cruising there something with a centerboard might be very useful. Most any boat will fit what you are looking for so I would scan classifieds being open to all makes. I have sailed in fiberglass, aluminum, steel, wood, and even ferrocement boats. They all have their own "charms" and can fit the bill. One thing that I would think about is how you plan on using your boat. Are you one to tie up to a dock frequently or do you prefer to…
Something you didn't mention were the Bahamas, if you consider cruising there something with a centerboard might be very useful. Most any boat will fit what you are looking for so I would scan classifieds being open to all makes. I have sailed in fiberglass, aluminum, steel, wood, and even ferrocement boats. They all have their own "charms" and can fit the bill. One thing that I would think about is how you plan on using your boat. Are you one to tie up to a dock frequently or do you prefer to anchor most of the time. Do you sail with a destination and time in mind only getting so many days or weeks to sail? Or do you wander following the winds? A bigger boat is expensive but has much more room naturally, no matter how much space on a boat a way will be found to occupy all of it.<br />
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My boat is a little 1971 C&C Corvette, at only 31 feet long and with nice beautiful overhangs she is very limited on interior space. She is suposed to sleep 4 but I find it would be tight on 2 if you were taking an extended cruise and were not close. Although she is a quick boat for her size 5.5 to 6 kts cruising under sail or power, she can hold her own with bigger boats (barely). I am setting her up for cruising and will have most of the gear on board that you would find on a much larger boat. She is a centerboard and I can get her into some much nicer anchorages, running aground becomes less of an issue as all I need to do is raise the board up and turn around (very handy here). Cost has been a consideration, I bought the boat for 3800 but before you go getting all excited I am going thru everything on board. I can haul the boat to do the bottom and it costs half the price of a 40 footer. 5 gallons of diesel can take me 100 miles under motor alone. Dockage much cheaper as well, not to mention that this boat is something you can turn around by hand in a canal very easilly if you want. Everything when dealing with this boat is less expensive than a big boat.<br />
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Ive sailed many larger boats and found that they are faster, more comfortable for more people, and have more room for more systems. The heads are more comfortable but how much time do you really spend there? As for storage space, I have found that there is more but it always gets filled up with things that never get used. 50 years ago a big boat was 25-30 feet with a cruiser still being around 30, today people feel the need that a cruiser needs to be 40-50 feet with many being much larger. Whats changed? I know the ocean hasn't if anything the ocean should be getting easier to traverse in smaller boats as we learn more about storms and advanced forecasting. David,
I was in the same pos…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2009-02-04:900123:Comment:584362009-02-04T00:23:31.282Zhhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/h
David,<br />
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I was in the same position as you a couple of years ago.<br />
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In the end I end up selecting a Malo 33.<br />
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Similar boats from Hallberg Rassy and Najad may be worth while considering.<br />
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The Malo is a displacement hull, which does not plane easily. IE it is not a racer.<br />
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The plus is that it comes standard with 220 liter of diesel tank and 220 + 150 liter of water. You need to go to 40' or longer to have the same water storage capacities.<br />
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See my page for more detail. Links to my website will give…
David,<br />
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I was in the same position as you a couple of years ago.<br />
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In the end I end up selecting a Malo 33.<br />
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Similar boats from Hallberg Rassy and Najad may be worth while considering.<br />
<br />
The Malo is a displacement hull, which does not plane easily. IE it is not a racer.<br />
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The plus is that it comes standard with 220 liter of diesel tank and 220 + 150 liter of water. You need to go to 40' or longer to have the same water storage capacities.<br />
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See my page for more detail. Links to my website will give you the original brochures and Yachting Monthly reviews. I've been sailing cats since…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2009-02-03:900123:Comment:583432009-02-03T22:07:44.447ZStuart Bellhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/StuartBell
I've been sailing cats since 2000 when my wife and I picked up a Voyage 43' cat in Cape Town and sailed her back to the states via almost every place in between.<br />
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Choosing a boat is much like choosing a spouse - no one else can do it for you. But, before you make your choice, you might think of dating a few - eventually the boat will tell you it is the right one.<br />
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While you are trying them, you might count the boats in the anchorages. My present boat, a Gemini, seems to be among the more…
I've been sailing cats since 2000 when my wife and I picked up a Voyage 43' cat in Cape Town and sailed her back to the states via almost every place in between.<br />
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Choosing a boat is much like choosing a spouse - no one else can do it for you. But, before you make your choice, you might think of dating a few - eventually the boat will tell you it is the right one.<br />
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While you are trying them, you might count the boats in the anchorages. My present boat, a Gemini, seems to be among the more popular in the Bahamas anchorages - lots of space for 4 people in a 34' boat, easy to handle, capable and civil. We eat on real dishes, sit in comfortable places underway, and have sufficient visibility and ventilation for most cruising conditions.<br />
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Since Geminis have been in production for years, there are inexpensive boats available that are well taken care of and capable of anything the crew wishes to demand.<br />
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It is seldom the boat that determines the journey - the crew can generally get the boat to anyplace desired and when the crew gives up, the boat often keeps on going on her own.<br />
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Try a few cats - if you are in South Florida, I'd be happy to take you out on mine - and let yourself think about where you spend most of your time when underway. shearwater-sailing.com This page should give you a f…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2009-02-03:900123:Comment:580112009-02-03T05:06:29.732ZVerandahttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/Veranda
This page should give you a few things to consider...<br />
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<a href="http://www.mahina.com/cruise.html"></a><br />
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Bill<br />
s/v Veranda
This page should give you a few things to consider...<br />
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<a href="http://www.mahina.com/cruise.html"></a><br />
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Bill<br />
s/v Veranda I had an experience with a 45…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2009-02-02:900123:Comment:576692009-02-02T22:52:13.844Zjean-marie cabrihttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/jeanmariecabri
I had an experience with a 45ft Shuttleworth from AL to Martinique in Nov. 2005. Delivery. I got 57kn of wind in the Gulf of MX. I was surprise how safe i felt despite the fact that i had no prior experience with cat.<br />
They can handle heavy weather easily as long as you learn the specificity of how to handle storm and heavy seas on a cat. It is extremely rare that they captsize and when they do they do not sink. You wait for the rescue on the hull. no need for life raft.<br />
I was surprise how…
I had an experience with a 45ft Shuttleworth from AL to Martinique in Nov. 2005. Delivery. I got 57kn of wind in the Gulf of MX. I was surprise how safe i felt despite the fact that i had no prior experience with cat.<br />
They can handle heavy weather easily as long as you learn the specificity of how to handle storm and heavy seas on a cat. It is extremely rare that they captsize and when they do they do not sink. You wait for the rescue on the hull. no need for life raft.<br />
I was surprise how uncomfortable she was at sea. She didn't go up wind well. we motor sail all the way to PR and strictly sail only from PR to Martinique.<br />
Since this experience i did my home work. She was not a well design cat. More for charter than a cruiser. When you compare cat vs. monohull they offer more space, more sleeping area, more comfort at anchor, easy access for diving and swimming, great entertaining area. The only monohull advantage is sailing to weather. Things have change. World cruiser go for catamarans more and more often. The reason are listed above. Outremer, Catana, Seawind, are World cruising Cats. Lagoon, Fontaine Pajot, Nautitech, etc... were conceived for the charter market. They are heavy. Weigh is a killer for cats. The lighter, the safer. You can get the challenge when you want a cruiser. Dagger board are a must. They help you with upwind performance. Length is important. Length and weight the bigger this site grows th…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2009-01-04:900123:Comment:501122009-01-04T18:13:39.095Z___/)ances With Sailshttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/danceswithsails
the bigger this site grows the more i get behind in discussions...hadnt seent his before till now...im on your level and thanks for stirring up these questions and attention...
the bigger this site grows the more i get behind in discussions...hadnt seent his before till now...im on your level and thanks for stirring up these questions and attention... For a different aspect to buy…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2008-10-26:900123:Comment:397362008-10-26T19:33:57.703ZMary Reidhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/MaryReid
For a different aspect to buying a boat you might check out the article Kary May's Sexy Guide to Buying a Boat. at my site http.//firstmatemary.blogspot.com <a href="http://firstmatemary.blogspot.com"></a> But seriously, we have a Tashiba 40 that has been very comfortable in most sailing conditions ( it's very heavy) and at anchor during storms. It has massive storage space which limits the living space. I would seriously consider how much offshore sailing you will be doing and how far you are…
For a different aspect to buying a boat you might check out the article Kary May's Sexy Guide to Buying a Boat. at my site http.//firstmatemary.blogspot.com <a href="http://firstmatemary.blogspot.com"></a> But seriously, we have a Tashiba 40 that has been very comfortable in most sailing conditions ( it's very heavy) and at anchor during storms. It has massive storage space which limits the living space. I would seriously consider how much offshore sailing you will be doing and how far you are going. If you are only going off for a day or two you can usually pick a weather window and a lighter boat with more living space may be more comfortable for your family David, I am glad that you bro…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2008-10-26:900123:Comment:396912008-10-26T15:10:49.028ZGreg VanLaerehttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/GregVanLaere
David, I am glad that you brought this up. I am in the same situation. I really enjoyed the postings of everyone! Thank you. Greg
David, I am glad that you brought this up. I am in the same situation. I really enjoyed the postings of everyone! Thank you. Greg Have you ever heard about an…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2008-10-22:900123:Comment:385892008-10-22T15:31:32.323ZAlain Brauckmannhttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/rds
Have you ever heard about an Elan 333 ?<br />
I don`t know if this brand is comon in the US because it`s a Slovenian brand.<br />
The Elan 333 is a real fast and easy to sail boat that will fit in all your wishes you noticed.<br />
Here in Europe you can find some Elan 333 boats from 60tnsd to 70tnsd Euros (+/- 76 to 90 tnsd US dollars ).…
Have you ever heard about an Elan 333 ?<br />
I don`t know if this brand is comon in the US because it`s a Slovenian brand.<br />
The Elan 333 is a real fast and easy to sail boat that will fit in all your wishes you noticed.<br />
Here in Europe you can find some Elan 333 boats from 60tnsd to 70tnsd Euros (+/- 76 to 90 tnsd US dollars ).<br />
<a href="http://sail.elan-yachts.com/default.asp?xpath=/plovila/good/sail_e333&xpathid=&lang=eng">http://sail.elan-yachts.com/default.asp?xpath=/plovila/good/sail_e333&xpathid=&lang=eng</a> forgot ct and formosa and the…tag:seaknots.ning.com,2008-10-22:900123:Comment:385592008-10-22T15:17:04.797Zzeehaghttp://seaknots.ning.com/profile/zeehag
forgot ct and formosa and the goood old taiwanese made boats....
forgot ct and formosa and the goood old taiwanese made boats....